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Sistemas C-UAS

Notapor poliorcetes el Mar Ene 04, 2022 11:32 am

Abro nuevo tema para analizar los sistemas antidrones o contradrones Counter-UAS C-UAS (y Counter-sUAS, contra drones pequeños), de tan rápida evolución en fecha reciente, para que sea más fácil de encontrar a futuro la información en lugar de estar entre los cientos de páginas de UAS

https://breakingdefense.com/2022/01/mar ... unter-uas/

Marines mulling interceptor upgrade for MADIS to counter UAS
Part of the Pentagon's broader counter UAS strategy it published last year, the Marines hope to field a system by fiscal 2025.
By JUSTIN KATZ
on January 03, 2022 at 3:05 PM

Marines prepare to demonstrate the Light-Marine Air Defense Integrated System (L-MADIS), on Marine Corps Base Quantico, Virginia, June 30, 2021. (U.S. Marine Corps photo by Tia Dufour)

WASHINGTON: The Marine Corps is collecting information from industry this month on potential counter UAS interceptors it can add to the next block of its ground-based air defense vehicle, following up on the Pentagon’s strategy published last year.

The Ground Based Air Defense program office “is interested in interceptor solutions that could be recoverable, field refurbish-able and/or non-recoverable that minimizes cost per engagement of Group 1-3 threats,” according to the public notice. Responses from industry are due on Jan. 20, and the service hopes to field a system by fiscal 2025.

The Pentagon characterizes the sizes of unmanned aircraft into “groups.” Group one represents small handheld drones deployable by just one or two Marines on the ground, while group five aircraft are similar in size to full-scale helicopters.

The interceptors the service is soliciting would be equipped on the Marine Air Defense Integrated System, also called MADIS. MADIS is essentially a Joint Light Tactical Vehicle with an array of sensors, communications equipment and light weaponry that Low Altitude Air Defense Marines, all called LAADs, can use to fight off incoming hostile drones.

The system has proven particularly effective in the Middle East, where terrorist cells have used small UAS for reconnaissance as well as dropping grenades, mortars and “acid,” according to a service statement published in June.

The service is seeking solutions rated at a technology readiness level of seven, according to the RFI. The Pentagon’s technology readiness level scale rates capabilities from one to nine based on their time in development and how applicable they are to the military’s use cases. A seven indicates the system has been prototyped and put through some level of operational testing.

The questions posed by industry, however, suggested the service’s request to defeat group one, two and three UAS with a single interceptor may be impractical due to the range of capabilities some larger drones possess.

“Is it government’s intent that the interceptor provide defeat capability against all Group 3 UAS targets or some specific low-end Group 3 targets?” one vendor asked.


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“The ideal situation would be that the interceptor could defeat some Groups [sic] 3 threats but the Government understands that Group 3 targets represent a large range of capability (i.e. altitude/speed). The Government is looking to understand the current state of the art and RFI responses may inform future requirements,” the service replied.

The Marine Corps’ public notice cites the 2021 Pentagon strategy on countering threats from small UAS.

“Small unmanned aircraft systems (sUAS) were previously viewed as hobbyist toys, but today it is evident that the potential for hazards or threats has the ability to impact the Joint Force,” then-acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller wrote.

“Our initial efforts were intended to meet the immediate needs of Services and combatant commanders. However, as technology and proliferation of sUAS continue to advance at a pace that challenges the Department’s ability to respond effectively within current paradigms, it is evident that we cannot rely on materiel solutions alone,” he continued.
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Notapor champi el Dom Ene 09, 2022 1:01 pm

Relacionado con la anterior noticia, Raytheon muestra el M-LIDS Coyote Block 2+ al US Army: https://www.armyrecognition.com/weapons ... ation.html
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The M-LIDS is based on an M-ATV 4x4 armored vehicle equipped with the Coyote Block2+ counter UAS solution, 30mm automatic cannon, one 7.62mm coaxial machine gun, KuRFS precision targeting radar and the Ku-720 mobile sensing radar. (Picture source Raytheon video screenshot)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrRScxnDfrk

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Notapor dejece el Dom Ene 09, 2022 3:06 pm

Supongo que eso vendrá a sustituir al avenger (huvie con stingers) ¿ cuántos hay fabricados o planificados?
Creo que necesitamos algo similar sobre VAMTAC
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Notapor poliorcetes el Dom Ene 09, 2022 3:54 pm

champi escribió:Relacionado con la anterior noticia, Raytheon muestra el M-LIDS Coyote Block 2+ al US Army: https://www.armyrecognition.com/weapons ... ation.html
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The M-LIDS is based on an M-ATV 4x4 armored vehicle equipped with the Coyote Block2+ counter UAS solution, 30mm automatic cannon, one 7.62mm coaxial machine gun, KuRFS precision targeting radar and the Ku-720 mobile sensing radar. (Picture source Raytheon video screenshot)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrRScxnDfrk

Lo más importante es el sensor. Hay que abaratarlo o complementarlo con otras capas de sensores baratos, pero la necesidad más imperiosa es ganar segundos en la detección. Hay urgencia no respondida para superar tiempo y sensibilidad humanas


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Notapor Truquichan el Dom Ene 09, 2022 8:36 pm

Momento del derribo de los drones que atacaban hace unos días en Irak, con motivo del aniversario de la muerte de Soleimani.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JasonMBrodsk ... 6015373316
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Notapor dejece el Dom Ene 09, 2022 10:13 pm

Truquichan escribió:Momento del derribo de los drones que atacaban hace unos días en Irak, con motivo del aniversario de la muerte de Soleimani.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JasonMBrodsk ... 6015373316

¿Qué ha derribado eso?
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Notapor dejece el Lun Ene 10, 2022 3:19 pm

¿Qué sistema tiene España?
Supongamos la siguiente situación tío ramdom en chandal con ganas de matar al presidente tira dron o varios con 500g de explosivo y lo hace apuntando al bulto en un mintin.(Yo no soy uno de esos ni hago apología de ello es solo un simple ejemplo)
¿Sería neutralizados antes de causar muertos o heridos graves?
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Notapor Truquichan el Lun Ene 10, 2022 7:41 pm

Un par de artículos del estado y estrategias actuales "prácticas" antidrones de distintos actores:

Parte 1
https://www.menadefense.net/military-in ... odays-war/

Parte 2
https://www.menadefense.net/military-in ... ays-war-2/

Tirando del hilo de donde lee Orel, ¡gracias!
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Notapor Vorlon el Lun Ene 10, 2022 8:49 pm

EME y Nanmo colaborando en el tema.

https://www.revistaejercitos.com/2022/0 ... -in-spain/


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Notapor Truquichan el Lun Ene 10, 2022 9:43 pm

Vorlon escribió:EME y Nanmo colaborando en el tema.

https://www.revistaejercitos.com/2022/0 ... -in-spain/


Saludos

:a7 muy interesante. Según leía cada vez me saltaban más peros e "y si". Pero, en todo caso es un buen punto de partida. Ese tipo de granadas y cadencias pueden ser suficiente y equilibrada para responder a un buen grupo de drones. El camino lo tiene Rheinmetall que si está probando con radar y automatizacion. Apuntar manualmente no tiene sentido alguno.

Una torre Mantis en un Dragon, sería algo digno de verse.
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Notapor 14yellow14 el Lun Ene 10, 2022 11:58 pm

Vorlon escribió:EME y Nanmo colaborando en el tema.

https://www.revistaejercitos.com/2022/0 ... -in-spain/


Saludos


Habia un video del sistema de Nammo en acción de hace un tiempo:


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Notapor poliorcetes el Mar Ene 11, 2022 1:23 am

Los sUAS ya los tenemos encima. Necesitan una kill chain nueva con capas y múltiples efectores y sensores. Un sistema así necesita número y sensores (radar, audio y vídeo) y no se va a poder emplear con sUAS que vuelen a ras de suelo


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Notapor Orel el Mar Ene 11, 2022 11:20 am


Interesante artículo. Así andamos...
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Notapor Vorlon el Jue Ene 13, 2022 12:40 pm

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Notapor champi el Vie Ene 21, 2022 8:25 pm

Importante contrato del USSOCOM (20/1/2022): https://www.defense.gov/News/Contracts/ ... e/2906241/
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U.S. SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND

Anduril Industries Inc., Irvine, California, was awarded an indefinite-delivery/indefinite-quantity contract (H92402-22-D-0001) with a maximum ceiling of $967,599,957 for a counter-unmanned systems, systems integration partner (SIP). Fiscal 2022 operations and maintenance funds in the amount of $1,096,092 were obligated at time of the award. The work will be performed in various locations within and outside the continental U.S., and is expected to be completed by Jan. 19, 2032. This contract was competitively awarded under the authority of 10 U.S. Code § 2371b(a)(2)(B) for a follow-on production contract. Twelve proposals were received in response to the SIP prototype project opportunity notice. U.S. Special Operations Command, MacDill Air Force Base, Florida, is the contracting activity. (Awarded Jan. 19, 2022)
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